The Empire Strikes Back

Is Schindler's List a good film, or simply a very bad film that people have mistaken for a good film? The book was also widely acclaimed but similarly may have been incredibly awful depending on your point of view.

I believe Lucas also exec'd one of Akira Kirasaurwhathehell(of Seven Samuri)'s films in the 90s, possibly Akira's last film?

The Lucas monster beast machines also proactively restore and archive old prints -- SHOCK HORROR -- to digital!!

Then there is (the possibly self-serving) THX certification of cinemas and audio equipment etc ...

Lucas is just a 'different' type of filmmaker with some interesting friends!

And, hey, don't forget Howard the Duck ;-)

Shirt, surely your post should read "made an UNBELIEVABLE film"... the plural being a bit deceptive. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
Personally I'd say that `Saving Private Ryan` was a brilliant, if somewhat harrowing, film. So yes, even for me, there are exceptions. Scorcese? well I just chucked him in there because he's just a tarrantino of the 80's as far as I'm concerned, alongside coppola (with the exception of Apocalypse Now)

Although my mini hall of fame list made great films in the 80's don't you think it's strange that they still have such clout both in the actual industry and in shadowing over so many young film makers. There is at least 10 maybe 15 years between us and that Golden age so why the big hankering after it.

The real test is this... if they released any of those films today would they still stand up? StarWars would probably be seen as some cheesy badly produced sci-fi. Indiana and ET are just cutesy childrens movies with no brains. Scorcese just looks like something off TV. Films that probably would work still today are `Apocalypse Now`, `Jaws`, `Close Encounters`, `Empire Strikes Back`, `Blade Runner`, `Alien`.... hmm that's probably just about it from my point of view.

So, if audiences are now cleverer and expect more than just some cheesy 80's blockbuster, why the big idol worshipping drive to make stuff in the 80's image. Chuck Spielberg and Scott out of the window. Their model is not appropriate any more.

They all represent a hideous `Tyrell` organisation which has hold of hollywood and our movie going minds. Although `Blair Witch` was crap it's still changed alot, along with the Dogma stuff, it's got these guys scared that the movie business is sliding out of their control and that actual talent is emerging from the indie sector. Recently I read that the big studio's we're talking in the US of trying to draft some laws to impose greater restrictions on indie filmmakers. All this because `Blair Witch` got them scared (wallet wise) and they're trying to prevent another incident like that.

hmmm... another red-faced rant from hairbrain!

just remember Coppola's prophetic words in Hearts of Darkness docco:

{paraphrased}

"... a 12 year old with a camcorder could capture the perfect moment on film, a moment of film history ..."

and when that 12 year old grows up, (s)he'll be the first filmmaker to make it from a humble beginning since Quentim emergerd from his video strore clerk roots

Word on the street sez Star Wars Episode III is gonna be called "Episode III: THE THING THAT CAME FROM THE DARK SIDE!!!" http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif Oooh, scary!

LOL

I dont understand why everyone hates the title. It is just a title. Ive never heard so much fuss over a title before. I dont just mean here. The press to.

Despin out.

Probably because "Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones" sound like the titles of Star Wars activity books for young readers. Whereas "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" sound like epics.

i dont understand why in the phantom menace the board of the jedi knight thought anakin skywalker was too old to begin the training but they willingly accept luke quick enough although he must be 21-23 years old. whats that all about?

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I told him not to jump...so he didn't. Damn! Don't you hate anti-climaxes.

Thats because he was the last one. The rest were killed of. He was there only hope. It wasnt out of choice. Just a lack of options.

I don't understand why Darth Vader aka Anakin Skywalker doesn't recognise the droid he built as a child. Obviously that lava pit did fry his brain.

And why don't the all powerful jedi notice a dark aura from Sidious?

and WTF are the midichlorins all about?

and immaculate conception? Please save us!

I hope these ambiguities get explained in the upcoming films, but some how I doubt it.

At least the Greek legends are (largely) consistent.

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